Transcript of Bonus Episode 029 - Transcript

Ben:
It's certainly not dumb, bledor. What are you doing? I'm McGona go and read more about Harry Potter, just...

Charlie:
God, you've got a Longbottom.

Ben:
This quiz was a bit of a Riddle.

Charlie:
Drop the mic. Don't drop the mic. It's expensive. It's your brother's mic.

Charlie:
Hello and welcome to another episode of the British English podcast, the show that helps you improve your British English and get more familiar with British culture. Now, a big part of our culture is to actually be aware that many of the citizens on the British Isles are indeed muggles. The rest of us are witches and wizards, and all went to the same school, which of course was Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry. So when I found out that a friend I have made in Australia is also a member of the Hogwarts alumni, I wanted to do an episode with him on it. If you've not immersed yourself in the world of Harry Potter, then I'd say you're missing out big time. But you probably won't want to listen to this episode until you have become acquainted with Hagrid, for example. If anything, though, I'm jealous. Jealous that you can experience Harry Potter for the first time ever. Unbelievable. So go consume the huge franchise that is Harry Potter and then come back and you can test how much you have absorbed, because I will be going through some Harry Potter quizzes with my old school friend from Hogwarts to see how much we remember of our time there. So either pack your trunk and head off to King's Cross and listen to another episode on your train journey or get your wands at the ready to answer the questions I'm about to provide you as a Harry Potter enthusiast. Enjoy.

Charlie:
Cheers Ben.

Ben:
Cheers. Oh, shit. I already opened mine.

Charlie:
All right.

Ben:
Cheers!

Charlie:
What can we say - Wingardium Leviosa!

Ben:
Wingardium Leviosa! You've got dirt on your nose. Right there.

Charlie:
Did you know? Did you know that?

Ben:
Did you know?

Charlie:
Did you know? I suppose we're having a can of butter beer, aren't we?

Ben:
I'm having a Fresh Tracks Brewing Co.

Charlie:
Come on, we're doing Harry Potter.

Ben:
Oh, yeah? Yeah. Sorry. I'm having a butter beer.

Charlie:
Butter beer.

Ben:
Down in Hogsmeade.

Charlie:
In Hogsmeade. Yeah. There you go.

Ben:
The fire is roaring and we're sitting huddled in a nice wooden corner of Hogsmeade pub, the Hog's Head.

Charlie:
And I've got the invisible blanket on my lap right now just hiding my genitals.

Ben:
You're wearing the invisibility cloak over your genitals while... while you sit in the corner and look at all the women.

Charlie:
Just to put some context into that, it's a bit cold in Sydney at the moment, so I've got a blanket over my lap, but I sound even worse actually admitting that because it's pathetic. Absolutely. I've got it here just for acoustic treatment. That's that's the reason.

Ben:
Yeah. You know what? I think that we had set up a nice little idea in their mind that we were sitting in the pub in Hogsmeade, the Hog's Head. So let me start it again. Ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to introduce you to our spot for this evening. We're sitting in the back of the Hog's Head in Hogsmeade, just outside of Hogwarts. It's winter and it's snowing outside. And Charlie and I are sitting by the raging fire having a butter beer. To our right are a giggling group of Ravenclaw girls, and to our left are a bunch of hupple... Hufflepuff.

Charlie:
Hupplepuffs!

Ben:
Hupplepuffs. It's the Butterbeer, I swear.

Charlie:
Very good, very good. Well, that leads us on to the first question. So we've got a three parter for us. The first round is progressively getting harder. It's a general quiz about Harry Potter, and each question gets harder and harder. So the first one will be nice and easy. Then part two we're going to do how well do you know the first Harry Potter book?

Ben:
I think I'm more more up to date on the movies these days. I think I read that Harry Potter book, the first one when I was about, I don't know, nine or maybe younger. I remember sitting in the library in primary school, and I must have been very young because I don't know what year, what year did it come out? In 1995. 1998.

Charlie:
I thought I was the age that it came out. Let's find out for you, Harry Potter first book release.

Ben:
Because I thought I remembered it coming out when I was in primary school. And we are almost the same age.

Charlie:
98.

Ben:
1998. I was right.

Charlie:
You said 95.

Ben:
And then I changed it to 98. And I've got proof. You know how I got proof? Because we're recording this.

Charlie:
No, I deleted that bit.

Ben:
Yeah. The listeners will never hear that bit.

Charlie:
Anyway, we'll be focusing on the first book of Harry Potter, so you'll show your weakness for being a movie lover. And then the next one, Part three is a quiz exclusively about the night bus.

Ben:
Oh, that's pretty specific.

Charlie:
Very, very. Okay, first one, part one. Which of these is not a Hogwarts House? Very easy. Hufflepuff, Ravenclaw, Thunderbird or Gryffindor?

Ben:
The Thunderbirds. They're the... They're those weird little claymation toy things that they filmed. Remember the Thunderbirds?

Charlie:
Yeah. Yeah, I do. I had quite a few toys of the Thunderbirds.

Ben:
Yeah. And I think that's what they based Team America World Police on, isn't it?

Charlie:
I didn't know that.

Ben:
Well, I'm making assumption because it was sort of... They all look like the Thunderbirds and the way the show used to be. I don't know. It's some wack thing from the seventies or sixties or something anyway. But yes, I will go with C Thunderbirds.

Charlie:
Very good. You are dun dun dun. Correct.

Ben:
Can we do this like a Who Wants to be a millionaire thing?

Charlie:
Maybe. I don't have a million to give to you.

Ben:
No, you only need 15.

Charlie:
Million?

Ben:
Oh, you mean. Oh, I see you don't have a million questions. Yes. No.

Charlie:
No, no. I meant pounds, or...

Ben:
Just give me a million cents. I don't know what that is in dollars, but we'll work it out.

Charlie:
I'll give you a million.

Ben:
How much is a million cents?

Charlie:
Oh, we should think of the currency in Harry Potter. Gold bullion.

Ben:
What was that? I don't know. Is it it...? Oh, God, I'm already. That's such a...

Charlie:
It's such an easy one. Is it just gold coins.

Ben:
No, there's wing nuts.

Charlie:
Oh, nuts and sickles.

Ben:
Sickles and wingnuts...

Charlie:
And golden galleons.

Ben:
Galleons, that's it.

Charlie:
Bronze nuts, silver sickles and golden galleons. Okay, so second one: What's Harry's middle name?

Ben:
James.

Charlie:
Very good. Didn't even need the options. Third one, actually. I feel like I want to quiz... I'll quiz us together.

Ben:
I was just going to say...

Charlie:
Yeah.

Ben:
...that I know that because Jane - nothing to do with the books, but James is what I would call my son. And I think I called my or something, maybe something a bit more Aussie like Jack or.

Charlie:
Or Remus.

Ben:
Harry. No. Yeah. Or Remus or, uh. What's the Griffin's name?

Charlie:
The Griffin. What Griffin?

Ben:
You know the thing he rides in number three.

Charlie:
Oh, the.

Ben:
Griffin. I mean, the. And it cuts his hair. They almost cut it.

Speaker2:
Buckbeak.

Ben:
Buckbeak. Yeah. Yeah. And they cut his head off and they use the time turner to go back and. [Yeah]. Sorry if you haven't read the book.

Charlie:
Yeah. Spoiler. [Yeah]. 13 years ago. Or however many. Which Weasley dies during the battle of Hogwarts?

Ben:
Okay. It's one of the twins, and I think it's Fred.

Charlie:
I'm going to counter that because I. Oh, no. Yeah, you're right. You're right. I was thinking that one of them got a bloody ear, but that was earlier on in the series, wasn't it? And he said, Look, I'm holey.

Ben:
Yeah, that was George, I think. And that was when they were first escaping the Dementors at the start of the Deathly Hallows. Is it? No, no.

Charlie:
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Ben:
The Deathly Hallows [Yeah] where they do that sort of fly through the London sky and...

Charlie:
Oh that's the order of the Phoenix, isn't it?

Ben:
Yeah, I think so, yeah.

Charlie:
They're going to Sirius Black's house. No, maybe you're right. It's the year after.

Ben:
I think it's the last. For the start of the... Maybe the start of number six.

Charlie:
Let's stick to the questions.

Ben:
Okay.

Charlie:
So George Weasley, Arthur Weasley. Fred Weasley or Charlie Weasley didn't really need to say the surnames then. You're going with George or Fred?

Ben:
There's no Fred in the options there, is there?

Charlie:
Yeah. George, Arthur, Fred or Charlie.

Ben:
Oh Fred.

Charlie:
Fred. Very good. Very good. You're right. You're right. I might have got that wrong. Who anonymously sends Harry his father's invisibility cloak on Christmas?

Ben:
Dumbledore.

Charlie:
Yeah, that's easy. That's easy. Albus Dumbledore. What class does Professor McGonagall teach?

Ben:
Transfiguration.

Charlie:
Very good. I would have also got that, but I didn't give you the options, so I'm impressed.

Ben:
I wish I'd prepared a quiz for you.

Charlie:
Well, maybe round two. You can ask the questions.

Ben:
I use my phone and I'll find some things out.

Charlie:
It sounds good. What is the animal symbol of Ravenclaw? Raven, Crow, vulture or eagle?

Ben:
I'm going to have to.

Charlie:
Do you want to phone a friend?

Ben:
I don't think they have phones in Harry Potter or the pub that we're in right now.

Charlie:
I'm sorry for removing my invisibility cloak over my genitals, but it's very hot.

Ben:
Next to this fireplace.

Charlie:
Yeah. The crackling fire. It's scorching my underpants.

Ben:
And they don't use phones where we are. They do that little thing where they talk to each other through the fireplace. [Yeah] like Sirius Black.

Charlie:
Yeah. That was one of the most disappointing moments in that film. His head being shown through the graphic.

Ben:
Yeah, the graphics in that were shocking, but I will say that that third movie is by far the best movie of the whole lot.

Charlie:
Wow. Okay, we've gone there.

Ben:
Look, the first two had a lot of merit. They were you know, they introduced us to the world. They were bright and happy. There's just something about the style, the music, the way that they slowly took you through Hogwarts and just allowed you to watch it and allowed Hogwarts to breathe. And yeah, it was just it was good.

Charlie:
I think it was enjoyable. And then after that, it kind of changed, didn't it?

Ben:
Yeah, it changed the overall tone. I mean, that was a deliberate change. So they'd had the first two movies which are quite kiddie, and then as Harry and the gang get older, the books get darker. They had to change the style of the movies to match that. I mean, the first movies, the Harry Potter logo at the beginning is gold. And then in the third it turns to silver and everything's in more muted and dull colours and darker. And the themes are a lot darker, of course. And it was good. It was a good shift. It was a needed shift. They sort of had to swing the pendulum very far in the other direction to sort of bring it back to a centre.

Charlie:
I noticed that. I was a bit more scared when I saw the fourth and the fifth.

Ben:
The music in it's amazing though. [Yes] I listen to those Harry Potter ambience things while I'm working.

Charlie:
I've done that before. I haven't done it in a while. But yeah, I can see why you do that.

Ben:
And I find that the tracks that I like the most, I go, Oh, what is that? And then I look on the tracklisting and it's usually from number three.

Charlie:
Okay, okay. So you bloody love number three.

Ben:
Anyway, I'm going to go with Raven.

Charlie:
Raven. Okay, that is the logical request. It's wrong!

Is it crow?

Charlie:
It's not a crow. Raven, Crow, vulture or eagle. We got mugged off there.

Ben:
But it's a raven.

Charlie:
It's an eagle.

Ben:
No way.

Charlie:
Just verifying the facts.

Ben:
No way.

Charlie:
The eagle.

Ben:
Get out of here. Okay, well, there you go. I thought. That's what you get when you think you're getting something really easily. [Yeah] There's a trick question in there every now and again.

Charlie:
The eagle is a symbol of strength, immortality, and closely linked to gods Zeus and Odin?

Ben:
Odin, yeah. That's the name.

Charlie:
All right.

Ben:
Don't know much about him, but it's a name.

Charlie:
Well, that was. Oh, so we got it wrong, so we can't get any further. We can retry the last question. Okay. Eagle, we cheat. How many Horcruxes did Voldemort create intentionally?

Ben:
He created seven intentionally. And Harry was the unintentional eighth.

Charlie:
Yeah, I would go with that. I always used to try to calculate how many there were, and I would always forget one of them and I'd get really annoyed with myself.

Ben:
It's either six and Harry was the seventh or it was seven and Harry was the eighth.

Charlie:
So he was obsessed with the number seven.

Ben:
Yeah, I think we go with seven. Let me see if I can remember it. It's the diadem of Ravenclaw. There was the ring. The ring which Dumbledore died from the curse of that, there was a goblet, Hufflepuff's goblet.

Charlie:
You don't know how to say that word, do you?

Ben:
No Hufflepuff?

Charlie:
Hufflepuff. So there was the snake.

Ben:
The snake Nagini, and then what else was there? There was.

Charlie:
The what did they kill the sword with?

Ben:
Oh, there was Tom Riddle's diary.

Charlie:
Tom Riddle's diary. Number five.

Ben:
Five.

Charlie:
The necklace.

Ben:
There was a neck diadem. Yeah.

Charlie:
No, no, no. The diadem is that.

Ben:
Yeah, and then there was something.

Charlie:
I'm pointing to my head.

Ben:
Yeah. The necklace.

Charlie:
The necklace. See, I've already lost count. This is exactly what I do every time. Is that six or seven?

Ben:
Six. And then I'm going to go with se... I can't remember what the other one was. I'm going to go with, oh, god. I'm going to go with seven and Harry being the unintentional eighth.

Charlie:
Okay. So intentionally seven.

Ben:
Yes.

Charlie:
Is that your final answer?

Ben:
Yeah.

Charlie:
Oh!

Ben:
It's six isn't it?

Charlie:
It's six.

Ben:
Damn it. We did. We even just added it up ourselves. Why didn't I go with that?

Charlie:
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got it. We got it.

Ben:
We literally just did it. Then I just went against what we did.

Charlie:
Yeah. There's a lesson for you guys. Trust your gut or your fingers.

Ben:
Let me just take a little aside here. I'm looking out the window of the the Hog's Head, and it's snowing outside.

Charlie:
Oh, it's gorgeous. But Malfoy just ran past and I want to kick him.

Ben:
And he just threw a snowball at me outside.

Charlie:
And it hit the window, though.

Ben:
When I was outside he got it and it went in my ear hole.

Charlie:
I like how you said hole. I don't know why.

Ben:
It went down into my ear hole. Anyway, it's good in here. I might... What are you going to order for dinner?

Charlie:
You know what? I don't really know what they eat apart from turkey and pumpkin and stuff.

Ben:
Yeah, I'll just get a some sort of stew or something, I think.

Charlie:
Yeah. I suppose a stew. Hagrid might be coming in in a bit. He said he was coming for five pints, no five gallons.

Ben:
Five gallons.

Charlie:
Five buckets of mead.

Ben:
And then he's going to take us into the woods.

Charlie:
That sounds dirty.

Ben:
No, he said... I don't know what he's going to do.

Charlie:
That's book eight.

Ben:
He said we're going on an adventure.

Charlie:
Don't tell your parents.

Ben:
I said, Do I need to bring anything? And he said, No, don't even bring your pants.

Charlie:
But in British English, that's that's not so. I mean, that's terrible. It's terrible. Just go commando.

Ben:
He said it's perfect thong weather in the... in the forest.

Charlie:
In Hogsmeade.

Charlie:
Okay. What children's book contains the story of the Deathly Hallows? You get extra points if I don't tell you. I would get this because I've just read it.

Ben:
Oh, did you really? The Deathly Hallows?

Charlie:
I mean, there's all four options, but I know which one it is.

Ben:
Beedle bard's...

Charlie:
Oh, very good.

Ben:
Tales for children or something.

Charlie:
Nailed it. The Tales of Beedle the Bard.

Ben:
Yes. There we go.

Charlie:
Very good. Very good. I'm impressed.

Ben:
That's not bad eh?

Charlie:
That's...

Ben:
I want to tell everyone listening to this, I did not have time to do any Harry Potter research before I came on here, so I'm just using my noggin.

Charlie:
Good noun. Noggin means head.

Ben:
Can you give me remind me what is a noun again? I know this is terrible.

Charlie:
Are you tricking me or are you being serious? I mean, if I wasn't teaching English...

Ben:
Let me see if I got this right. Okay. Adjective obviously is describing word. A noun is like.

Charlie:
You've got to speed this up because the audience is embarrassed by you.

Ben:
Okay. You know what? We'll just can it there.

Charlie:
No, go on. Go on.

Ben:
And noun is something... Is like a description of something. It is the name of...

Charlie:
A noun is a thing.

Ben:
A thing. Yeah, like yeah, sorry...

Charlie:
A table, a laptop.

Ben:
Yeah. And a proper noun is a person's name. And then a verb is an action word.

Charlie:
Doing thing.

Ben:
And then that's it. Yeah.

Charlie:
Adverb?

Ben:
is the way you're doing it, so quickly.

Charlie:
Very good. Very good. Okay, good. Nice. We've all learned something today or reminded ourselves of something. What kind of magical creature is Aragog?

Ben:
It is a gigantic spider.

Charlie:
Very good. Although we've got urkling, mackled malaclaw, acromantula or a Kappa.

Ben:
Oh, it's an acromantula.

Charlie:
Hmm. Yeah, I suppose they're mythical names. What name does Buckbeak take?

Ben:
Was it acromantula?

Charlie:
It was. Sorry. Yes. What name does Buckbeak take after avoiding execution? Oh!

Ben:
Oh, they give Buck Beak a new name.

Charlie:
Wow, that is next level. We've reached the next level, haven't we?

Ben:
Are there options?

Charlie:
Yeah. Flutterfeather, Swifthoof, Feathertail...

Ben:
Swift tooth... Hoof.

Charlie:
Witherwings.

Ben:
Swift hoof.

Charlie:
So Swift Hoof.

Ben:
Swift,

Charlie:
Swift tooth, swift hooth.

Ben:
Yeah.

Charlie:
No hoof,

Ben:
Hooth

Charlie:
Hoof.

Ben:
What did I say?

Charlie:
Hooth.

Ben:
Did I? That's hilarious!

Charlie:
You literally just corrected me and said hooth.

Ben:
It's Swift Hooth.

Charlie:
No, it's...

Ben:
Hoof!

Charlie:
All right, one more time. Swift hoof.

Ben:
Okay, I'm going to go with Swift Hoof.

Charlie:
It's not. I thought it was Witherwings and it is.

Ben:
So yeah? Really?

Charlie:
Yeah. Witherwings.

Ben:
Witherwings. It sounds like a margarine brand. I don't know why.

Charlie:
When is Neville's birthday? July 27th, 28th, 29th or 30th?

Ben:
Well, I know that Neville was the possible other the other chosen one because he was born at the same time as Harry.

Charlie:
Yeah. The cowardly other one.

I don't know. 20, I can't remember. 27th?

Charlie:
I would put my house is that a phrase? Put my house on something? [Yeah] I would put my house on it being July 28th.

Ben:
Okay, I'll go 27th.

Charlie:
It's neither. I'm homeless. It's July 30th. Bloody Neville. What is Voldemort's mother's name? Marvola, Morphin, Merope or Morrigan? Morrigan.

Ben:
Marvolo Gaunt is not Voldemort's mother.

Charlie:
Oh I was going to say it was her.

Ben:
Malvolo Gaunt.

Charlie:
Was that the sister?

Ben:
Lord Voldemort was Tom Riddle, Marvolo Gaunt was. What are the other options? Say them again.

Charlie:
Yeah. I said them quickly. Morphin, Merope or Morrigan.

Ben:
Okay. Only because I can't. I haven't heard the other ones. I'm just gonna have to go with Marvolo though. But I think that's wrong.

Charlie:
I think it's right. And it's wrong.

Ben:
Yeah. Yeah.

Charlie:
Merope.

Ben:
Merope? Oh.

Charlie:
Am I saying it wrong? M E R O P E.

Ben:
I have never heard of it in my life. Merope.

Charlie:
I guess she wasn't in the films then. She was in the books.

Ben:
Passed Merope.

Charlie:
In the road. Can you pass Merape?

Ben:
She's falling off a cliff. Very quick. Pass my ropey!

Charlie:
What, the rope or her?

Ben:
She wants her Merope.

Charlie:
Give me my ropey!

Ben:
Yeah, pass my ropey! Passed myself for me.

Charlie:
Do you think she's good at abseiling?

Ben:
Yeah. Yeah, obviously.

Charlie:
Because she's always got her ropey.

Ben:
She's a piece of rope.

Charlie:
What does Neville break at his first flying lesson?

Ben:
His ummm...

Charlie:
His wrist, foot, collarbone, or remembrall?

Ben:
Wrist. Because Madame Hooch comes over, goes 'Oh, dear. It's a broken wrist'.

Charlie:
Very nice. Yeah, I think that is correct. The remembrall... The remembrall was what Harry flew up and caught.

Ben:
Yes, that's right.

Charlie:
And that's what led him to be the Quidditch hero that he is.

Ben:
Yes. He he shot past and he shot past Mcgonagall's window as she was working at her desk in one of the high towers and she saw him catch the remembrall like he would catch a snitch, I suppose. [Yeah]. So she recommended him to be the youngest seeker in a hundred years or something.

Charlie:
Very good. Very good. [Yes.] Perfect factual comment there. Perfectly correct. Yeah. Okay, wrist. We're going with wrist. And it was the wrist. Very good. What family does Winky the house elf work for before working at Hogwarts?

Ben:
Oh, that's easy.

Charlie:
Yes, very easy.

Ben:
Winky?

Charlie:
Oh, wait. Yes, we're tricked again, Winky. Not Dobby. Winky.

Ben:
I know, hang on. Winky, winky, winky, winky, winky. Oh yeah. You've given me a nice little winky there.

Charlie:
I've got the options. Do you want them. [Yes]. Crouch, Malfoy, Lestrange or Diggory.

Ben:
Say crouch? Crouch.

Charlie:
So Winky. So I remember obviously Dobby and then the one at Sirius Black's was was.

Ben:
Was oh god, the... Kreacher.

Charlie:
Kreacher, Kreacher. And Winky. When did Winky get into the whole story?

Ben:
I have a feeling. What were the options of the families again?

Charlie:
Crouch, Malfoy, Lestrange, Diggory.

Ben:
I think that it can't be Lestrange because the Lestrange family, Bellatrix is part of that house. And I think that's Kreacher. He belongs to the Lestranges. Is that right?

Charlie:
The Blacks.

Ben:
Oh, the Blacks, yeah.

Charlie:
They were cousins.

Ben:
Winky. I think it might be the Crouch. Barty Crouch.

Charlie:
Oh, oh yes. So this was on when what's his name? The guy who was in the chest.

Ben:
I think Winky was...

Charlie:
Yeah. But his son was the...

Ben:
Barty Crouch Junior. Yeah. And I think didn't the the House elf give testimony or something?

Charlie:
I remember at the beginning where. Yeah, I think you're right.

Ben:
Let's go with the Crouches.

Charlie:
Yeah. Okay. And we're right. [Yes!] Nice work.

Ben:
Come on. That was good.

Charlie:
Very nice. Good form,

Ben:
Good form,

Charlie:
Good form. Leading on to the next question. What form does Hermione's Boggart take? I'm not going to look at the options yet.

Ben:
That's the thing that scares you. It...

Charlie:
Oh, I remember!

Ben:
displays your...

Charlie:
I remember.

Ben:
It displays your ultimate fear.

Charlie:
Yes. And it was a B, wasn't it? Like homework being graded as like not an A star or something. I'm going to look at the list.

Ben:
I don't think so.

Charlie:
Professor McGonagall telling her she failed.

Ben:
Oh, is that right?

Charlie:
I think that's right. The other ones are Lord Voldemort. A giant snake. Her parents dead because of her.

Ben:
No. Definitely being told. Yeah, being told that it's a failed grade. It's like when she smells that love potion and everyone smells something different that they love. And she says she can smell fresh cut grass and fresh parchment.

Charlie:
Oh, does she? I remember the grass. I don't remember the parchment. There we go. Okay. Yeah, we were right. We were right. So what spell do James and Lily use to hide themselves and Harry? Informus Spell, Memory Charm, Invisibility Charm, Fidelius Charm. Fidelius. Fidelius.

Ben:
Now, I think fidelius is the memory charm.

Charlie:
What? So they're trying to trick us by saying memory charm? So James and Lily used to hide themselves in Harry. Okay, so this is Sirius magic.

Ben:
Well, I don't think that. You know what? I don't think...

Charlie:
So they go into hiding.

Ben:
Yeah, I think invisibility charm might be a trick. She doesn't do that. She calls them actual, like, names. Like she doesn't say invisibility charm. She'll say something like fidelius charm.

Charlie:
Or informus spell.

Ben:
Informus. That would be something. Yeah, exactly. So if you were wanting to get information out of someone, to tell you the truth, she would call it an informus spell, for example, because it's to do with informing you and information or something. So let's go with Fidelius, because it is, I think, Latin for fidelity as its root word. What does fidelity mean?

Charlie:
Yeah, I was just giving you that. So fidelity meaning faithfulness to a person cause or belief or the degree of exactness with which something is copied or reproduced.

Ben:
Okay.

Charlie:
I'm not sure. Okay. We're going to go with fidelius.

Ben:
I'm going to go with Fidelis, I think. Let's go with Fidelis.

Charlie:
You are right. [Okay]. Good call. Good call. Okay. Who replaces the fat lady after Sirius Black attacks her? Who replaces the fat lady? Oh, yeah.

Ben:
Are there options there?

Charlie:
Gifford Abbott, Brutus Scrimgeour, Sir Cadogan and Nicholas de Mimsy Porpington.

Ben:
Hmm. I'm going to go. Nicholas de Mimsy Porpington.

Charlie:
I like saying that.

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How do you say it?

Charlie:
Nicholas de Mimsy. Porpington. Go and give it a go in British English.

Ben:
Nicholas de Mimsy Porpington.

Charlie:
Pretty good. Pretty good. Can you now say it in a Scouse accent?

Ben:
Nicholas de Mimsy Porpington.

Charlie:
Very good. You got any others in you? Scottish?

Ben:
Nicholas de Mimsy Porpington.

Charlie:
Yeah, I'll accept that. Yeah.

Speaker2:
Let me say this. There's two types of posh that I understand in England. Right? There's the sort of the blokes who will sit around a bar in London. They're not really posh, but they sort of... They're in finance and they sort of wear rugby jumpers with the, you know, with the collars popped and they sort of sit around and going, oh, yes, yes, come here, come here. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. My old boy, come here. And they sort of talk in this sort of, you know, they're sort of posh, but without any of the charm. Sort of. The women are running around going, 'Oh, Gerald, come here. Yes, yes. Do come here. I must show you this.'

Charlie:
Why is everyone coming here?

Ben:
I don't know. It's just it's my image of it. And then there's the sort of the old posh boys who sort of. Oh yes, they're just so smooth, you know, everything's, you know, super charming and, 'Oh yeah. Hey, old boy. Should we have a scotch? The sun's over the yard arm. Oh, yeah. You know, they've got all that sort of charm and swagger.

Charlie:
Yeah like the...

Ben:
Sort of an unbridled confidence.

Charlie:
The new M. Yeah. Particularly, I feel like.

Ben:
Whereas, you know, what's his name? Q. He's sort of that posh, but without any of that charm.

Charlie:
Okay.

Ben:
You know, is that real like modern posh? He doesn't talk like this, you know, sort of: 'Oh yes Bond'. It's very, you know, it's got all of the syllables and all of the sound, but it just doesn't have that, like, sort of.

Charlie:
Elongated.

Ben:
It doesn't have that sort of running. It's like the real posh accent, the old style posh accent's like running water, you know?

Charlie:
Ooh, I like that image.

Ben:
It's all sort of. It's like churned butter, you know, swimming.

Charlie:
Which one do you prefer?

Ben:
I like that old boy posh.

Charlie:
Do you think that the Q generation, you know, the modern Q, when he's the older generation, do you think he will elongate his vowels and turn it into the old boy English?

Ben:
Oh, no. No. I think that's that's the sort of an Eton thing. Boris Johnson does it a little bit. That's very Eton. It's very specifically cultural in a certain minor, minor, minor part of the population.

Charlie:
Not many people enjoy this kind of sound in the U.K. actually, if you if you sound a little bit like this, you might get punched in the teeth.

Ben:
Yeah. Yeah. I heard everyone these days is trying to drop the posh accent over there.

Charlie:
Yeah, mate. Gotta fucking do that. I've gone too far. I've gone Aussie.

Ben:
Yeah, you've gone Aussie. Because what were you trying to do? You were just trying to drop in a bit of cockney.

Charlie:
I was actually saying that yours is, like, all the way down there.

Ben:
If you want to talk like Michael Caine, you don't just do the elongated cockney accent. You've got to kind of like speak out of your nose like that, you know. Michael Caine speaks very slowly, and when he's talking, he talks out of his nose like that, doesn't he?

Charlie:
It's good. It's good, yours. It's not like Rob Brydon, Steve Coogan kind of imitation level, but it's up there. It's very good. I think it's like if he had a son, that's what he would sound like.

Ben:
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll be Michael Caine's son.

Charlie:
All right, who replaces the fat lady after Sirius Black attacks her?

Ben:
We... I remember that really weird name. Nicholas.

Charlie:
Nicholas de Mimsy Porpington. Wait, let me do this in an Aussie accent. Nicholas de Mimsy Porpington.

Ben:
That was shocking. Nicholas de Mimsy Porpington.

Charlie:
So we had this really comical guy in the first place that we lived in, which was like a shared accommodation. And every night he would get completely plastered and he would come in and he said, 'Oh, alright there Charlie? What are you having for dinner mate?'

Ben:
When I used to work in a pub, I used to work in a pub like a local pub in this area. When I was growing up, this area was a working class sort of... It was on the tail end of being a very rough working class area. Now it's super posh, super expensive. But when I was a kid I was on the tail end of that real working class thing and I was about 18, 19. I was working in pubs in Balmain and some of those old working class boys were still around. I'd be there...

Charlie:
Did they sound like that?

Ben:
What's that?

Charlie:
What I just said.

Ben:
Yeah, yeah. And at the end of the night, you know, I'd say last drinks. Last drinks. And they'd sort of sit at the bar all night just having beer after beer after beer and getting progressively less and less coherent. I'd say last drinks, guys. So it's sort of last drinks. Anyway, I'd pack up the tills and everything, pokies, put everything away, get the tills and as I'm walking out there was this bloke. I won't say his name, but he would always come up to me and go, Oh, come on, Benny, give us another one, mate. And I'd go, I'd go, come on, so-and-so, let's just call him Grant. I go, come on, Grant.

Charlie:
Cos his name's Grant.

Ben:
Cos his name's Grant.

Charlie:
And like, come on, Grant, you can't you know, I told you, I told you we were doing last drinks, I've given it to you. And he goes, Oh, come on, Benny, fucking come on, mate. And I go, No, Grant, sorry. I go, 'Next time'. And he'd go, 'Oh, f... fine'. And then he'd walk out and I'd go. He'd sort of get pissed off and he'd walk out and I'd go, 'Night, Grant', get home safe, and he'd turn around and go, 'You can go and get fucked'.

Charlie:
Jesus!

Ben:
And he'd be going 'Oh, I've been coming here for 40 fucking years'.

Charlie:
Wow. And he still doesn't know when last orders are.

Ben:
No, I know. That's what... I was like, so yeah, yeah.

Charlie:
He's proving himself wrong.

Ben:
Yeah, yeah. You've been coming here for 40 years, you still haven't got your timings right?

Charlie:
They say you live and you learn, but you don't, Grant.

Ben:
That's great.

Charlie:
Okay. It was Sir Cadogan. I don't remember his name. I remember who he was. And I remember he used to talk a lot, but yeah. What Hogwarts House is Garrick Ollivander in? All right, you know what? If we get it wrong, that's us over for this part. I don't know how many questions we've done, but we're not allowed any more lives. Okay.

Ben:
Okay. Okay.

Charlie:
All right, so that's this part done when we get it wrong. So this really counts. What Hogwarts House is Garrick Ollivander in? Ollivander is in Ollivander's wands.

Ben:
I'm going to say Huff... Ravenclaw.

Charlie:
Huff Ravenclaw.

Ben:
I'm going to say Huff. Raven Griffyn.

Charlie:
Did you change that because you were afraid of saying the last syllable of that?

Ben:
Hufflepuff.

Charlie:
Hufflepuff.

Ben:
Hufflepuff,

Charlie:
Hufflepuffer.

Ben:
Hufflepuff.

Charlie:
Hufflepuff. Which one? Ravenclaw or Hufflepuff, Slytherin or Gryffindor?

Ben:
I will go with... You know what? I'll go with Hufflepuff.

Charlie:
That gets me every time. Okay, wait. This is it. Are we sure? Why? Can you tell me why?

Ben:
I just like saying Hufflepuff.

Charlie:
So he knew his dad? Oh, no. He liked his mum more, didn't he?

Ben:
Who's that?

Charlie:
Sorry I'm talking about when he met Harry Potter. So he talked very highly of his mother more, didn't he? Does that mean that he liked Ravenclaw more because she was a Ravenclaw, wasn't she? And he was a Gryffindor.

Ben:
You know what? I don't know.

Charlie:
I think...

Charlie:
I thought Lily was. I just assumed Lily was a Gryffindor.

Charlie:
Lily Potter's House...

Ben:
Let's see.

Charlie:
Oh, no, she was Gryffindor. I'm wrong.

Ben:
Gryffindor. Let's go. Hufflepuff. Because it's fun to say. Hey, just say it one more time.

Charlie:
Huffapuff. Hufflepuff.

Ben:
Okay, we'll go Hufflepuff.

Charlie:
Ravenclaw. We're out.

Ben:
Damn!

Charlie:
So we cheated, but we got 18 out of 25. So you scored better than 41% of all other quiz takers despite the fact that we cheated. Okay, game over. There we go. We have come to the end of Part one, so feel free to take a break from your listening practice. But if you're happy to keep going, then we're now moving on to part two of this episode. Thanks so much for being a premium or Academy member and enjoy the rest of the show. Okay. Part two is how well do you know the first Harry Potter book slash movie in your case. First things first. First things first. An easy one. What is the name of the first book?

Ben:
Harry Potter. Ah Okay! Are we talking about the British name or the American name?

Charlie:
What is the name of this podcast?

Ben:
Yes, but I did want to use that to lead on to a little factual piece of information.

Charlie:
Please continue.

Ben:
Okay. Well, since we're doing the British English podcast and it was written by a Brit, it was called Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone.

Charlie:
Can you tell me how to pronounce the author's name?

Ben:
J.K. Rowling. Rowling. J.K. Rowling.

Charlie:
You sure? Yes. Yeah, correct.

Charlie:
I remember getting so confused because I heard so many Americans saying Rowling. But it's the same as bowling. [Yeah, right]. Tenpin bowling.

Ben:
J.K. Rowling. Yeah, we say that here. And also, I was just going to say, I don't know if anyone knows this, but in America, I think it was they didn't know... They didn't think anyone was going to understand what a philosopher was. So they just called it a sorcerer. They didn't think it would resonate with children enough because it was too much of an adult idea, a philosopher. So they wanted more of the fantastical elements. So they called it the Sorcerer's Stone. And that... So in America, it's Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone. And that's why the movie is called Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone.

Ben:
The movie is called that, isn't it?

Charlie:
No. Is it?

Ben:
Maybe.

Charlie:
No. Surely it's dependent on the country?

Ben:
No. You know what? I am wrong. It's the Philosopher's Stone. Yeah, the movie. I remember the. I can see it in my. In my mind's eye now.

Charlie:
So, philosopher, I don't really get that. Philosopher. Why is Nicolas Cage a philosopher?

Ben:
Nicolas Cage?

Charlie:
Nicolas Cage

Ben:
The actor? I don't know. You have to ask him.

Charlie:
When you were playing Gone in 60 Seconds, how was that philosophical?

Ben:
Why did you become an actor when you're so philosophical? You were great as a philosopher in Con Air.

Charlie:
How did you have time to be such a good philosopher?

Ben:
Nicholas Flamel?

Charlie:
Nicholas Flamel. Thank you.

Ben:
Well, because I think he was... In the in the stories, isn't he a philosopher who tinkered with the formula for everlasting life?

Charlie:
Yeah.

Ben:
And that's what that stone is.

Charlie:
But I thought that would be a chemist, wouldn't it?

Ben:
Well, I suppose that he was a philo..

Charlie:
Alchemist! Yeah, that was it. An alchemist.

Ben:
Doesn't an alchemist turn any product into gold?

Charlie:
Potentially.

Ben:
That's what alchemy is. The ancient idea of alchemy, the ancient bullshit was that you could.. These guys could...

Charlie:
Ancient bullshit!

Ben:
...Iis that these guys could turn rocks and stuff into gold. That secret formula.

Charlie:
A person who practises alchemy - That doesn't really help. A person who transforms something through a seemingly magical process. I don't think it's specifically gold.

Ben:
Oh, okay.

Charlie:
So alchemist, who was the only known maker of the Philosopher's Stone. Oh, so he made... But I still don't understand why it's a Philosopher's Stone.

Ben:
Maybe it's referring to the subject, who uses it? So the person who uses it is someone who's a philosopher who wants to study life forever. It might be referring to the subject. I don't know. I'm just hazarding a guess here. It's possible. What do you look at up right now? Yeah, well, because Sorcerer's Stone would make more sense if you really think about it. So maybe the Americans had something right there, you know?

Charlie:
The Philosopher's Stone or more properly Philosophers' Stone - there's an apostrophe in a different place - is a mythical alchemical substance capable of turning base metals such as mercury into gold or silver. It is also called the elixir of life, useful for regeneration, rejuvenation and for achieving immortality. For many centuries, it was the most sought goal in alchemy. It was the most sought goal in alchemy. The Philosopher's Stone was the central symbol of the mystical terminology of alchemy, symbolising perfection at its finest, enlightenment and heavenly bliss. Efforts to discover the Philosopher's Stone were known as the Magnum opus. Opus?

Ben:
Magnum, opus.

Charlie:
Magnum, opus. Great work. I still feel like we haven't got to the...

Ben:
We haven't got to the bottom of that. You know what? I'm going to have to have a look myself. Oh. It says here that the Philosopher's Stone is an actual real life legend in our history.

Charlie:
Oh really. [Yeah]. She's just pulling on the fact that that is something that's in our history and and that's what this guy was looking for. Nicolas Cage.

Ben:
Okay. So I'm just reading here, I don't know how verified this is ah, you know, you never know what's verified on the Internet these days, but it says that the Philosopher's Stone is an actual real life legend. And you can't just go around renaming actual real life legends all willy nilly. Therefore, Americans are wrong calling it the Sorcerer's Stone. According to the Internet, the Philosopher's Stone is now a chemical substance of legend, capable of turning base metals such as mercury into gold or silver. It's also, uh. Yep. So basically, I think it's a real life legend, and she just took that.

Charlie:
Right, right.

Ben:
We still didn't get to the bottom of why it's called that. But anyway, maybe it was philosophised by Archimedes.

Charlie:
I like it. Let's take it. Would you like to have it?

Ben:
No, I don't think so. Not unless I could bring all my friends and family with me. [Ahhh!] How many times are you going to make new friends, you know?

Charlie:
Imagine a selfish ending to that. I can't be bothered to make new friends every couple of years.

Ben:
Can you imagine just going living forever and you just see generation after generation born, grow up, live through the... The amazing youth of their lives and wither away and die?

Charlie:
Brilliant. You know what I... To add to this depressing thought I would get incredibly sceptical. I think the older we get, the more sceptical we are about the hope of humanity. Like old gits. Old men.

Ben:
Do you ever just think you're going to be at that age one day where you just every night you go to bed, you just think, fuck, I might not wake up tomorrow?

Charlie:
Oh, good. One day I suppose that will be a reality. And I can't wait.

Ben:
Just enjoy being in your early thirties right now.

Charlie:
Early thirties.

Ben:
This is the peak of your life right now. [Do you reckon?] It's all downhill from there. You're going to go back to England, you can have a kid, you're going to get married and then suddenly you'll be 70 or 80, you'll be hobbling along. You'll probably have a heart attack, a couple of strokes, and then it's all over.

Charlie:
Did I tell you that I was playing tennis the other day with - as a game of doubles, so four people on the court - and one of them said to me, 'By the way, Charlie, you're the only man on this court that hasn't had open heart surgery'.

Ben:
Get out of here.

Charlie:
He had just recovered from one and the other two had had it in previous years.

Ben:
And you know what they say. You are who you hang out with. Tell me your friends and I'll show you your future.

Charlie:
Very nice. Very nice. So, yeah, I might need the Philosopher's Stone after all. Okay, so Philosopher's Stone. There we go. We're in it. We're in to win it. Next question. What was the name of Hagrid's three headed dog that guarded the Philosopher's Stone?

Ben:
That's an easy one. That's too easy Charlie.

Charlie:
Was it? Fwuffy, Luffy, Pluffy or Fluffy?

Ben:
I'm going to go with Fwaffy.

Charlie:
Oh, Fwuffy. Come here, fwuffy.

Ben:
And I know there's a B question to this following up. How did they get the dog to sleep? I'm guessing.

Charlie:
Probably not. What breed of dragon was Norbert? I love how English that name sounds. Do you know any Norberts?

Ben:
Norbert.

Charlie:
Apart from the dragon?

Ben:
I just don't understand who would name their child Norbert.

Charlie:
Well, I feel like the same with my dad. Like, my dad's name is Nigel, little baby Nigel.

Ben:
You know, okay, I'll tell you what. In Australia, I can never imagine a newborn baby being called either Gary or Bruce. To me, Gary is a 60 year old ex tradie sitting in the pub smoking a pack of weenie reds.

Charlie:
We found out who the real name behind Grant was anyway.

Ben:
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Ben:
And Bruce. Bruce is his mate who's just popped in from plumbing all day, and he's got a massive gut and a sailor tattoo, and he's balding on top and he's just red faced.

Charlie:
Why has he got the sailing tattoo?

Ben:
Just from that era, isn't he? And being a sailor was considered hard.

Charlie:
Okay, so he got the anchor.

Ben:
The anchor yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe he was a sailor.

Charlie:
Or maybe he loved Popeye.

Ben:
Yeah, he might have. He was probably a wharfie back in the day.

Charlie:
What's a wharfie?

Ben:
They're the blokes who used to work on the wharves. They'd just basically bring heavy loads of containers in off boats.

Charlie:
Oh, okay. So working in the docks.

Ben:
Pretty rough work, really.

Charlie:
Okay. So what breed of dragon was Norbert, Hagrid's baby dragon?

Ben:
It was a... Before you even... Let's see if I got this. A Romanian Ridgeback. Norwegian Ridgeback?

Charlie:
There you go. Yes, there you go. Very nice, correct. Correct. That was really good. What colour was the Weasley jumper that Harry got as a Christmas present?

Ben:
Well, I know Ron always gets brown. I think Harry got a blue one.

Charlie:
So we're going with emerald green, brown, blue or maroon?

Ben:
I'm going to go with blue. Hmm. They do have a lot of brown and maroon, don't they and everything?

Charlie:
Maybe maroon is just Gryffindor or Brown.

Ben:
Yeah, well, I'm going to take your idea. I'm going to go with maroon. New South Wales just lost the state of origin.

Charlie:
Emerald Green.

Ben:
Oh, we were both wrong. So if Melbourne puts a team in the State of Origin, they can be green.

Charlie:
Okay.

Ben:
Because we had blue and we had maroon and that's the... In Australia we have a rugby league game. It's a three game series every year. It's the biggest thing on the calendar here sports wise and it's New South Wales versus Queensland. It's a famous rivalry. Queensland are Maroons and New South Wales are blues. So I went with Maroon because Queensland won this year.

Charlie:
Oh, I see.

Ben:
It was a wild guess.

Charlie:
Fair. During the sorting ceremony, who was the first student to be sorted into Gryffindor? Oh, this is the first book.

Ben:
Hermione.

Charlie:
She is on the list. [Oh] She is on the list.

Ben:
Oh no no...

Charlie:
Parvati Patel, Dean Thomas, Lavender Brown, Hermione Granger.

Ben:
Hermione.

Charlie:
Yeah, I don't know.

Ben:
I think.

Charlie:
Yeah. I mean, it could be I feel like the first... Would the first be a main character straightaway?

Ben:
I don't know. It just appeared in my head.

Charlie:
Okay.

Ben:
Patel?

Charlie:
Yeah. I thought it might be her.

Ben:
Let's go Patel.

Charlie:
Okay. Oh It's Lavender Brown. Lavender. On the giant wizard chessboard through the trapdoor, what chess piece did Hermione play as? I know Ron was a knight, wasn't he?

Ben:
Yeah. And Hermione sacrificed herself?

Charlie:
No, Ron sacrificed himself.

Ben:
Isn't he the chess...?

Charlie:
He sacrificed himself. And then Hermione was like, no, don't. And then [Yes] And then he was like 'Stay!' Or Harry was like 'Stay there!'

Ben:
Yes. Yeah. Ron was on horseback, which means he was a knight.

Charlie:
Yeah. Says Castle Bishop Pawn.

Ben:
I think she was a... God, were they both knights?

Charlie:
I think she was a bishop.

Ben:
I think she was a bishop, too.

Charlie:
Let's do it.

Ben:
Oh, a castle. Yeah.

Charlie:
In the Philosopher's Stone. What was the first password to the Gryffindor common room?

Ben:
Oh, God.

Charlie:
Pig snout. Wattlebird, Caput Draconis, Fortuna Major. I think it was Fortuna Major

Ben:
Fortuna Major. That sounds...

Charlie:
I really remember that. We are fucking hell. We're wrong. Caput draconis.

Ben:
Jesus. Mate, we are getting slaughtered on this one.

Charlie:
Yeah. Two more left. What did the first years have to do as the practical part of their transfiguration exam?

Ben:
They had to transfigure a feather. No, no. That was levitating. So they were levitating a feather. They were transfiguring a...

Charlie:
I remember they did a cup into a mouse, didn't they? Or a mouse into a cup

Ben:
A watch into a clock. Oh, no. No, no, no, no. That was when they were telling... When Lupin was saying to Harry that Cedric Diggory could turn a a whistle into a stopwatch by by the end of his first year or something.

Charlie:
Oh, very good memory.

Ben:
No. So what was it? It was a mouse into a cup.

Charlie:
Yeah. We've got turn a rat into a goblet. Turn a mouse into a snuff box.

Ben:
It was a rat into a snuff box.

Charlie:
What's a snuff box?

Ben:
That's where they used to put... Sniffing like either cocaine or sniffing... In World War One, back in the day when cocaine wasn't illegal and it was just a... They had sniffing tobacco and cocaine and things like that, I think. And you know, Brad Pitt uses one in Inglorious Bastards.

Charlie:
And they have one in Blow, I imagine.

Ben:
I haven't seen Blow.

Charlie:
Oh I recommend.

Ben:
They used to have these. Yeah. I think it was tobacco maybe and or something and they sniff it from the.

Charlie:
Snuff refers to any powder that is prepared for sniffing but is more commonly associated associated with tobacco.

Ben:
Yeah. They must have made a powder out of it or something because obviously the nicotine still works. I mean, they must have ground it up into a fine powder. Like the same way that you can grind up coriander and stuff. You know when you go to Master foods and you get little things like all ground up herbs. Same thing. You could snort... Go to...Let's go to... What master foodstuff have you got here? Snort some coriander, some ground up cinnamon. [Yeah] Yeah. Just get a little snuff box, chuck a mix of master foods...

Charlie:
I mean, I've got an old mint tin. We could stuff some coriander in that mint tin. Woo! Woo! All right, so turn a rat into a goblet. [Yeah.] All right. Oh! Turn a mouse into a snuff box.

Ben:
No, it wasn't.

Charlie:
Apparently.

Ben:
But we saw a goblet with a...

Charlie:
Yeah. But I think the question is the practical part of their exam, not their first lesson. I think we got done over there. How many new computer games did Dudley receive for his birthday?

Ben:
Wasn't it 53? He goes 53!

Charlie:
Oh, that's presents.

Speaker2:
Oh, that was presents.

Ben:
Yeah.

Charlie:
Good memory, if that is right. I can't quite remember. But it sounds about right. Yeah.

Ben:
Yeah. For video games, I have no idea.

Charlie:
16, 18, 12 or 9. Yeah, that's a that's a complete gamble. Oh, my God. You were right.

Ben:
Well, I'm a massive Harry Potter fan.

Charlie:
On, Harry's... Last question. On Harry's School list. What material did it say his cauldron should be made from? Do you want the materials?

Ben:
Pewter?

Charlie:
Very good. Pewter, iron, steel or gold? I feel like Hagrid said 'You could get this or you could get this', didn't he?

Ben:
I just said pewter because it's what came to my brain.

Charlie:
Do you remember? Like he had more galleons and they're like, 'Oh, you don't need this material, but you could get it'.

Ben:
I don't remember that specifically.

Charlie:
Should we do pewter?

Ben:
Well, yeah, it's purely because that's what popped into my mind.

Charlie:
All right. Correct. Yes. End on a win. All right. View results. We scored five out of ten. Rubbish.

Ben:
Yeah, but what do they ask us about?

Charlie:
I know. Pottering along. That is what we got. That's quite...I quite like that.

Ben:
I like that. I like that.

Charlie:
A so-so score. We're just pottering along. Very nice. Okay, that is the end of that quiz. We have come to the end of part two now. So again, feel free to pause the episode to take a break from your listening practice and come back to the last part when you're ready. All right. So moving on to part three now. Enjoy. Have you got a beer?

Ben:
No, I don't.

Charlie:
I'll get us some beer.

Ben:
There's heaps of fun.

Charlie:
Welcome to Part three. The Defence Against the Dark Arts Teachers quiz.

Ben:
The worst music for that ever!

Charlie:
So welcome guys to part three, the defence against the Dark Arts Teachers Quiz.

Ben:
Yes.

Charlie:
We, we decided against the night bus because we didn't think we would get many questions right so...

Ben:
It's just so specific.

Charlie:
The defence against the dark arts it is. So question one What did Professor Quirrel's classroom smell of? Freshly cut grass, baked.

Ben:
Definitely not.

Charlie:
No?

Ben:
Definitely not that.

Charlie:
Baked bread.

Ben:
No.

Charlie:
Mouldy cheese.

Ben:
Yes I think so.

Charlie:
Or my bottom! Or garlic.

Ben:
I'm going to go with mouldy cheese. It sounds more like something you'd hear in a kid's book.

Charlie:
So I thought it was garlic because he was very afraid of the vampires. I know his turban smelled of garlic, or he had cloves of garlic around his neck or hung up. He had cloves of garlic hung up in his classroom.

Ben:
I think you're right. Yeah.

Charlie:
I think so.

Ben:
Yes, yes, yes.

Charlie:
Okay. I'd bet my house on that one. I got it correct. Keep my house.

Ben:
You haven't got any more houses left.

Charlie:
I don't even have one.

Ben:
You don't even own one.

Charlie:
Professor Lockhart sets his students an unusual quiz, asking them what his favourite colour is. What is it? Oh, this is a good. This is good. I think you'll get it once you hear it.

Ben:
Okay. It's going to be something so stupid. Lilac or.

Charlie:
Oh, is that how Aussies say lilac?

Ben:
Lilac.

Charlie:
Oh, really? Yeah. Oh.

Ben:
Is that an option. Is it?

Charlie:
It is an option. It is an option.

Ben:
Where's lilac.

Charlie:
Really. Is that how Aussies say lilac? [Yeah]. Yeah. Wow.

Ben:
It's how I say it.

Charlie:
I've been here three years and I haven't heard anyone say lilac. How do you say this? Part of the head?

Ben:
Forehead?

Charlie:
Yeah, that's interesting.

Ben:
How do you say it?

Charlie:
Lana says that. For'head. For'head. I say forehead.

Ben:
Really?

Charlie:
Yeah.

Ben:
It's for'head though. [Okay]. How do you s... Oh, no, that doesn't matter. I was just gonna say. No, of course, that's American. I was going to say it's really weird. Like I thought that there was a difference in pronunciation. You know how we say aluminium and they say aluminum? It's actually completely different word, obviously. I mean, now I know that as an older like guy, but like when I was in school, I just thought they were just pronouncing it differently and I'd never really thought about it enough to work out, of course, as an extra syllable in there. It's a completely different word almost. [Yeah] It's spelt differently. It's actually structurally different. It's... I don't know why they use a different word. They have to do everything differently, don't they?

Charlie:
Well yeah. They like to remove the like not dipthongs always, but like two vowels together. They just, or two letters that seem pointless, basically.

Ben:
Well, I'll tell you what's pointless. The way they eat. They use a knife and fork, right? So they'll put the fork in the left hand and the knife in the right hand, and they'll cut up the meat and then they switch the fork to their dominant hand. They put down the knife and then switch the fork and then pick up the food and eat it. This is an American thing. We don't do this here in Australia and I doubt you do it in Britain because we took all of our table manners from you guys.

Charlie:
And then you binned it. [Yeah] I just saw how you ate. I'm joking. I feel like you did eat a bit more Aussie.

Ben:
I was...

Charlie:
You were like... Or was it your left hand? Do you use your left?

Ben:
I wouldn't switch my....

Charlie:
Do you use your left for your fork?

Ben:
I use my left my fork and my right. Yeah, my right's my dominant hand, so I cut with my right and I'll... Then I'll pick up with my left as well.

Charlie:
Do you have your fork closed or open when you're eating peas?

Ben:
Waste my time eating peas, man.

Charlie:
I can't get these mass of just peas...

Ben:
I'll tell you what. I hold my fork sideways, but with the prongs pointing in. Because then I can flip it if I need to or I can scoop. So I sort of have it sideways. I don't have... I don't hold it like up or down.

Charlie:
So you don't put, like, the pointy finger on the actual top of the fork. Like, imagine how the queen would eat. She would eat.

Ben:
I just don't hold it like that. I literally hold my fork. I was never taught proper table manners, but, I mean, not not it's not manners. I was never taught, like, how you... I mean, there was no specific, like etiquette about how you hold stuff. I don't know.

Charlie:
Do you think that's an Aussie thing? Because I think... I can't remember if I told you, but my sister feels like this is a bit of an Aussie thing because she's a lot more lacksadaisical. Is that right?

Ben:
Lacksadaisical Yeah. Yeah.

Charlie:
About manners now because she's lived in Australia for five years and she's... Her husband is an Aussie and my parents went over and they said something about it and she said, Well, this is the Aussie way. You've got to be less obsessed with being uptight.

Ben:
Oh yeah, we don't have any of those rules. I mean, we all eat with our elbows on the table.

Charlie:
Yeah, that's a controversial one.

Ben:
Well, I never even thought about that until...

Charlie:
In England. I mean.

Ben:
Oh, yeah, other people started telling me not to put my elbows on the table. But I eat like that. I'll tell you what. I eat like a prisoner and I'll tell you why. You know how prisoners in prison, like, they'll have their arms around their food, protecting their food. It's because my dad used to tease Sam and I. My brother. He would pretend to take our food when we were little. And so we started sitting like prisoners. And now my instinct is to guard my food hawkishly.

Charlie:
I did think you were worried that Stacey would steal your food.

Ben:
Oh, she did. She beat me up and took my wallet as well.

Charlie:
So back to the question. Spring green, hot pink, lilac or lilac and periwinkle blue.

Ben:
Oh, I have to go with lilac.

Charlie:
I think it's periwinkle blue. But you might be right. You might be right.

Ben:
Well, I said the lilac before the options even came out.

Charlie:
Yeah, that's true. All right, we'll put yours and I'll be smug if it's periwinkle blue. No comment. Next question.

Ben:
Yes!

Charlie:
Very good.

Ben:
Hey, come on. That is such a specific fine detail of a question. Come on, now, that is good.

Charlie:
Hey, you know your defence against the dark arts teachers.

Ben:
Well, we've met here in the Hogshead so many times. Especially Slughorn. He always comes up here and sits by the fire with me.

Charlie:
Oh, yeah? Is that because he's trying to collect you?

Ben:
Yeah, he wants to collect me and put me in a glass jar. I love going to Hogwarts. It's great. I'm a student there.

Charlie:
I like how a student would announce that.

Ben:
Yeah.

Charlie:
I'm a student there.

Ben:
I am a student there.

Charlie:
Also there.

Ben:
No, I mean here. Yeah.

Charlie:
What do you do? I'm a student there.

Ben:
I know it doesn't sound like it, but I am ten years old, so I'm going to try out for the Quidditch team next year. [Yeah?] When I turn 11.

Charlie:
Goalkeeper?

Ben:
I'd like to be a beater. I just want to go around beating people. Beating people to.

Charlie:
Smithereens,

Ben:
Smithereens. In smithereens. That's a good word.

Charlie:
What is the first dark, magical creature that Professor Lupin introduces his class to?

Ben:
Lupin. I think it's the Bogart.

Charlie:
I think I would say Boggart.

Ben:
Boggart. yeah.

Charlie:
Yeah. Is it an Aussie thing?

Ben:
No. Isn't it a Harry Potter thing?

Charlie:
Yeah, I would imagine so. But I'm being kind.

Ben:
Boggart Yeah. Okay.

Charlie:
A Lilac Bogart.

Ben:
Is that right?

Charlie:
No,

Ben:
No. How did I fall for that? God. I just caught myself then and there's no coming back from that. You've recorded it. God. Okay. The very first thing.

Charlie:
You can have the options if you want.

Ben:
Yeah, please.

Charlie:
I mean, you've got it. A hinky punk, a red cap, a bogart, a Kappa.

Ben:
A boggart. Yeah.

Charlie:
He has a kappa in his office when Harry Potter goes to see him. Do you remember that? [No], when he's not allowed to, Hogsmeade. So you're sat in Hogsmeade smug that Harry can't come.

Ben:
He's allowed to come here.

Charlie:
Yeah, he's not allowed to come here. And you're a student at his school?

Ben:
Yeah, and I'm in Madame Pomphrey or whatever... What's the. No, Madam Rosemerta owns this fine establishment.

Charlie:
Very good. I mean, that surpasses my knowledge.

Ben:
Remember when me and you met up with Madam Rosemerta and we had a bath together?

Charlie:
No, I was watching.

Ben:
A bath full of butterbeer? You can edit that out.

Charlie:
No, she was. She was...

Ben:
Feel free to edit that out.

Charlie:
You were allowed to... No, this is for the paid members, so they get the drivel.

Ben:
We're three beers deep here.

Charlie:
Butter beer.

Ben:
Butterbeers. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Charlie:
No, she was lathering you up.

Ben:
She was lathering me up with some butter from the butter beer, the excess butter.

Charlie:
So yeah, a kappa was what I was talking about anyway. A boggart. I think you're right. Let's go with it. You are correct. Through to the next round. Dung. Dung. What was Mad-eye Moody's catchphrase?

Ben:
That's all folks! The name's Bond. James Bond. Okay. What I. In my old work, I used to like... I went through this phase where I thought it was hilarious to enforce a catchphrase onto someone they never said in their life. But I would just think something up, and I would tell everyone that that was their catchphrase. Every time they met someone new. I would say, by the way, just so you know, we call him, we call him X or Y, and then they'll go, Why do you do that? And he'd be like, What are you talking about? Because he's got this catchphrase that he always says, and then I'll tell them this catchphrase. And he's like known all around the place for his catchphrase. And they were like, What are you talking about? And then yeah, everyone would just start thinking that they had a catchphrase.

Charlie:
And would he be like confronted about this?

Ben:
They were honestly, I swear, like I got some new people to really think for some time that they had a catchphrase that they always said.

Charlie:
What, themselves? Like, do I say that?

Ben:
No, like legitimately, like my best mates at work, I would tell everyone that everyone knew that they had... My best mates had catchphrases and these new people genuinely thought that they had like these catchphrases. And it was really weird that they always say at a certain time.

Charlie:
Weird, so Mad-eye? Always be prepared, actually. Maybe let's get into character. Always be prepared, Harry. No, it's a bit Hagrid like Always, always be always be prepared.

Ben:
Is this Pirates of the Caribbean?

Charlie:
Constant vigilance.

Ben:
Oh, I think constant vigilance.

Charlie:
Trust no one.

Ben:
Aww.

Charlie:
Watch Your back.

Ben:
Man. You are making these all sound like they're legit.

Charlie:
It's because of the accent.

Ben:
But they all sound legit.

Charlie:
Always be prepared.

Ben:
Do that voice. Say something ridiculous. It'll sound good. Like, say his catchphrases.

Charlie:
Grab me another beer, run that bath.

Ben:
His catchphrase to all the students. Run my bath. How much was your laptop? Don't drop the soap Harry.

Charlie:
That's what Voldemort would say. Yeah so always be prepared. Constant vigilance. Trust no one. Or watch your back.

Ben:
Watch your Back.

Charlie:
I would go with trust no one, but I don't know. Oh. He's talking about his eye. He can always see around.

Ben:
Watch your back.

Charlie:
So watch your back? Yeah, I think you're right. Oh, constant vigilance!

Ben:
Well, the eye makes sense as well there.

Charlie:
Yeah, I mean, all of them are kind of the same theme.

Ben:
In which movie are we talking about here?

Charlie:
This is all general. I mean, Mad-Eye is...

Ben:
Because Maddie is not Mad-Eye in the actual movie where you meet Mad-Eye. The the funny thing about Mad-Eye is, right...

Charlie:
There's a riddle.

Ben:
The funny thing about Mad-Eye is, right, the movie where he's got the most screen presence, or most time with him. You're never actually with him. You're with, um. What's his name? Barty* Crouch Jr. And it's not Mad-Eye. So you really only get Mad-Eye for, like, a little bit more.

Charlie:
Yeah.

Ben:
Doesn't he die in the next book? He's there in four.

Charlie:
He takes Harry in the last one.

Ben:
No, he gets one more book, he gets the fifth. And then in the sixth, he dies in the air, doesn't he? Or is that in the seventh?

Charlie:
Does he die in the air?

Ben:
Yeah, like when they're flying.

Charlie:
Okay. So what was the dull text book that Professor Umbridge insisted on making her students read? Do you want the options?

Ben:
Yes, please.

Charlie:
Defensive Magical Theory. Dark Arts Defence. Confronting the Faceless or Basics for beginners.

Ben:
Just one more time.

Charlie:
Defensive Magical Theory. Dark Arts Defence.

Ben:
Defensive Magical Theory.

Charlie:
Yeah, I think it would be that because it was all theory based.

Ben:
It was deliberately anti dark arts.

Charlie:
Practical. Yeah. Yeah. Are you telling me we're not going to cast a single spell in this classroom?

Ben:
You have dirt on your nose?

Charlie:
That was the first one!

Ben:
I know. I love to say it. We'll take the lot.

Charlie:
When's that?

Ben:
The trade, when he's got... When Ron goes... When Ron can't a afford anything. He's got that sandwich.

Charlie:
I've got sandwiches. Thanks.

Ben:
I've got a sandwich. And then he goes. Ooh. Oh! What! That's a real shame. They've only got that one jump in them.

Charlie:
No, he doesn't say that.

Ben:
That's the frog. He goes.

Charlie:
Yeah, yeah, I know. The frog is jumping on the window, but he.

Ben:
Well, that's. That's he goes... Well, that's bad luck that is. They've only got one good jump in 'em.

Charlie:
He doesn't say bad. He says rotten. Good word.

Ben:
That's rotten luck, isn't it?

Charlie:
Oh, that's rotten luck mate.

Ben:
Yeah, that's more like it. Yeah.

Charlie:
Yeah. Did you know you've got dirt on your nose?

Ben:
No, no. She goes. You've got dirt on your nose. Did you know? She's a nightmare.

Charlie:
He sounds a bit too Essex.

Ben:
My Ron accent is shocking. Yeah.

Charlie:
Ron's from the countryside. He's not from East London.

Ben:
Yeah, he is.

Charlie:
No, he's not.

Ben:
He talks like that, don't he? Oi Harry, come here Scar.

Charlie:
Is your name really Harry Potter? Do you have a scar? Defensive magical theory. All right, let's see. We're right.

Ben:
You've got dirt on your nose.

Charlie:
What does he say about her sometimes?

Ben:
Oh, right, she's a right old slut. Just terrible.

Charlie:
No. What does he say? She's a ruddy night... No. What does he say?

Ben:
Ruddy. That's true of the IT crowd.

Charlie:
She's a right nightmare.

Ben:
Yeah. Yeah. Something like that.

Charlie:
And next question. And what were the laws called that Professor Umbridge started creating around Hogwarts?

Ben:
Decree something.

Charlie:
Very good.

Ben:
Ministerial Decree.

Charlie:
So we've got Dolores doctrines, practical pronouncements, educational decrees, statues of sorcery. All right, next question. We were right. We were right. Fantastic.

Ben:
Oh, sorry. I've lost the plot.

Charlie:
Good phrase, though. I've lost the plot. Professor Snape finally took on his much desired post as defence against the Dark Arts Teacher in which book? Book number six. So number six was the Half-Blood Prince. He was the Half-Blood Prince, wasn't he?

Ben:
He was indeed.

Charlie:
Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, yeah. There's Goblet of Fire. Order of Phoenix. Order of the Phoenix. Half-blood Prince and Deathly Hallows. The Deathly Hallows. So you're going half-blood Prince? Anything to add to this apart from giggles?

Ben:
Yeah. Okay, I'll try and add something...

Charlie:
Tears of laughter.

Ben:
Okay. So I was just going to say, I like the way that she wrote the sort of irony that Ron and Harry both went for the clean new textbook and Ron got the clean new textbook. So Harry was left with the the scabby old textbook, and it was actually the best textbook, but it was just great the way she set that up. It was a very. A lot of irony in that. It was great.

Charlie:
Yeah, I like that, too. And I like how bitter they were that he ended up doing so well in potions.

Ben:
Right. They had a big fight that book, did they, or something?

Charlie:
About the book. Yeah. Because he was getting obsessed over it wasn't he. And they were thinking he was spending too much time investing in the Half-Blood Prince. And he started to think that his father had written it, I think.

Ben:
What was the movie? The movie of the book? Which one was the one where Harry and Ron had a proper argument?

Charlie:
That was.

Ben:
That was the fourth, wasn't it, where they had.

Charlie:
Yes, it was the fourth. The Dragons. He was annoyed until the Dragons because then he was scared for him.

Ben:
Then he goes, I told so-and-so to tell Hagrid to tell you. And then he goes, I'm surprised you didn't work that out. And he goes, How could anyone work that out, Ron? Diagonally.

Charlie:
Yeah, he says it's slightly wrong.

Ben:
All right, Harry, throw the dust down and in a clear, loud voice, say Diagon Alley. And he goes, 'Yeah, I've got it'. Throws the dust down, he goes, Diagon Alley.

Charlie:
Yeah, very good. That was spot on. I think in either the book or the film. I think it's the film. He kind of coughs, didn't he?

Ben:
Yeah, but why would that make you say Diagonally?

Charlie:
Yeah.

Ben:
Yeah. I guess in the book though.

Charlie:
He just mispronounces it because of the cough like Diagonally. [Yeah]. But in the book, I think it's exactly what you said.

Ben:
But it takes him to Nocturn Alley. [Hmm]. So he should have gone dark. Diag - Nocturn Alley [Ahem Nocturn Alley], and they're going 'Wait, Harry, we said Diagon Alley, and he goes, Oh, sorry, Nocturn Alley.

Charlie:
Oh, sorry. I said, Nocturnal Alley.

Ben:
Say, Harry, say, just loudly pronounced Diagon Alley. And he goes... Throws the potion, whatever dust down and he goes, Nocturn Alley.

Charlie:
All right. So Half-Blood Prince. Going once... We're correct. We're doing really well. How many have we got right? We've done seven.

Ben:
It's got to be seven. You know, I don't even have to remember. I just know we're such Harry Potter fans.

Charlie:
Confident man. Just a quick test of your memory. What symbol does Ravenclaw have?

Ben:
An eagle.

Charlie:
Good man. We all learn something today.

Ben:
Is that a question that came up and then you can't ask it because you already asked it in a different quiz?

Charlie:
No, no, no, no. I was just being annoying. Which of the Carrow siblings took over Defence against the Dark Arts Amicus or Alecto?

Ben:
Amicus.

Charlie:
This is tricky, tricky stuff. But I think you're right. You are right. Nailing it. Number nine out of ten. And what did Amicus rename defence against the Dark Arts? Black Magic, Cruelty and Curses, Dark Arts, Advanced Dark Arts?

Ben:
Dark Arts.

Charlie:
I would assume it's dark arts.

Ben:
Dark arts. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Charlie:
Not very imaginative, Amicus.

Ben:
No, no. Well, they try and sort of paint the evil people as having no redeeming features whatsoever.

Charlie:
Oh, yeah.

Ben:
So, yeah. Take away any imagination.

Charlie:
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's good. Yeah. Don't want to...

Ben:
Obviously they try and base almost every evil organisation around the Nazis these days and the Nazis really had very little imagination, or they at least deliberately tried to expunge imagination out of almost everything.

Charlie:
I'm not sure if I mean this, but tell me more.

Ben:
All right. They were very keen to remove any art that didn't fall within the boundaries of what they would consider part of the party line. So they didn't want to have free thinking. Free thinking is basically the antithesis to the idea of a authoritarian government. So it's the antithesis to the idea of an authoritarian government. So if you've got free thinkers, then you have radical ideas and you have people who are going to oppose you. They want a subdued population who is adherent to everything that they think and believe. So they removed all the art, they took away any details from their buildings. You might look at the Nazi buildings. They're very clean and clinical. Everything's in straight lines. Everything is neat, without flourishes, without artistic merit. And so they basically I think J.K. Rowling has taken that and put that into her evil characters under Voldemort, in her books, those sort of ideas.

Charlie:
Well done for pronouncing her name right as well.

Ben:
Yeah. J.kKRowling.

Charlie:
Very good. Okay, so dark arts it is. And you're right.

Ben:
This one's crushing.

Charlie:
Yeah, yeah, crushing it. All right, ten, number ten. In fantastic beasts. Oh.

Ben:
I have not seen this.

Charlie:
Oh, they're taking us into a new world. They're assuming.

Ben:
Assuming. Well, all I know about Fantastic Beasts is there's an animal in the start of that movie that looks exactly like a platypus. I mean, they've just. They have just taken a platypus and made it into a CGI character.

Charlie:
Was it a platypus with, like, hedgehog features or was it just platypus like. I think it was platypus.

Ben:
I think it had some hedgehog-like features. It's almost like they took an echidna and they took a platypus and combined them together, from memory.

Charlie:
Maybe one of them had the hybrid of them as a pet, maybe the cast.

Ben:
Whoever was creating it must have seen a platypus and a echidna and must have just thought Australia's got some of the weirdest pokemon-looking creatures of all time.

Charlie:
In Fantastic Beasts, the Crimes of Grindelwald, Professor Dumbledore teaches Newt Scamander.

Ben:
Yeah, that's it. Newt Scamander.

Charlie:
About boggarts. What is Newt's fear? Gellert Grindelwald, To see a dead magical creature, losing letter, or to work in an office.

Ben:
Dead magical creature.

Charlie:
Wow. Do you know that?

Ben:
I know what he does for a job. He collects all of the information about magical creatures and he loves them. So I would think that would be his greatest fear.

Charlie:
I salute you. Oh, you're wrong? I was about to salute you. It was to work in an office. How much less profound is that?

Ben:
That's just. You can see where it left the hands of J.K. Rowling and went straight into a Disney-esque kind of studio system.

Charlie:
Oh, I feel like that was the only one that we got wrong. Oh know. Eight out of ten. Eight out of ten.

Ben:
To be fair, that's not really Harry Potter. That last question.

Charlie:
True. True. I'll take one away from that. Yeah. So we got eight out of nine. Top of the class we got. Certainly not pottering around anymore.

Ben:
No, no. And certainly not weaselling our way to a decent score. We're certainly not dumb-bledore, although we're certainly not Mc-gonna go and read-a-gall. Mcgonagall and read.

That's terrible.

Ben:
Mcgonagall and read. I'm-a going to go and read.

Charlie:
Mcgonagall. Who's read?

Ben:
I'm McGonagall and read more about... McGonagall and read more about that. Harry Potter. What are you doing? I'm Mc-going to go and read more about Harry Potter.

Charlie:
I'm going to go get my ropey.

Ben:
I'm just.Just gonna go. Just Flitwick.

Charlie:
God, you've got Long bottom.

Ben:
What year is this? Hermione Grange? Hermione what year is this Grange?

Charlie:
What is a grange?

Ben:
It's like a red wine.

Charlie:
Is it?

Ben:
Something to do with red wine.

Charlie:
Are you flagging?

Ben:
No. What else is there? So you've done Neville Longbottom, Snape, Liquorice Schnapps?

Charlie:
I think that's it.

Ben:
No, come on. We can do a couple more.

Charlie:
One more good one each.

Ben:
Okay. After Cedric died, did they diggory his grave?

Charlie:
You can say I'm diggoring around for another mark. Because it was. It was about top of the class.

Ben:
I'm diggoring around for another mark. And then just one more. This quiz was a bit of a riddle.

Charlie:
Drop the mic. Don't drop the mic. It's expensive. It's your brother's mic. All right. We'll leave it there. Thank you very much, Ben. I appreciate your efforts towards showing your Harry Potter knowledge. It was good.

Ben:
No worries. It's been my pleasure. And that's the best podcast ever. I'm just doing... Drinking beers and talking about Harry Potter. I can't think of anything better.

Charlie:
Perfect. All right. See you again soon, guys. Much love. There we go. The end of part three, meaning the end of the episode. Well done for getting through the entirety of it. Make sure you use all of the resources available to you in your membership. Thanks once again for supporting the show and I look forward to seeing you next time on the British English podcast.