Transcript of Bitesize Ep 74 - Transcript

Charlie:
Hello and welcome to another episode of the British English Podcast with your host, Charlie Baxter. And we have Harry with us in this bitesize episode to go through level two of the diary of a CEO Conversation Cards. We released an episode on level one of these conversation cards a couple of weeks ago, so I encourage you to go listen to that episode if you want, but without being a chronological...

Harry:
****.

Charlie:
So that was the first word from Harry in today's episode, and that was ****.

Harry:
Sorry, I felt like you weren't gonna do alliteration with chronological, so I was just trying to fill in the blanks.

Charlie:
Gosh, that's a strong word to start with, isn't it? Imagine.

Harry:
No sorry. Yeah. If you bleep that out. A chronological...

Charlie:
Imagine if you're like a guest at a newsroom and you're waiting to be asked a question and they're just reading out the the transcript and you go '****' on the left side of them.

Harry:
Just so you know, that was by no means a built up frustration from our minor, minor conflict in the first episode where you were mocking my answer. No way related.

Charlie:
Yeah. The first episode, we were talking about Oatly for the majority of the conversation, which is fine. Absolutely fine.

Harry:
Yeah.

Charlie:
Okay, so guys, if you haven't heard.

Harry:
And Charlie found my choice highly amusing.

Charlie:
I did, I did, but.

Harry:
Which is fine too.

Charlie:
Which is also fine. Okay. So we did level one which was warm up. It was to break the ice because, you know, we needed that. Uh, level two is to open up. Um, are you ready to dive deeper and build stronger connections than before, Harry?

Harry:
Yeah, yeah, I think we're discovering something with these. Like when you already have a good friendship or relationship and you bust out conversation cards, it's often a surefire dive into the depths of shit. No, I don't mean, yeah carry on.

Charlie:
Okay, again, feel free to veto these if you don't like them. But level two, how will you control your own greed?

Harry:
When? How will I... When? When I pile on the pounds? Or how do I?

Charlie:
I guess the structure grammatically speaking, if for a grammarian it might cause a headache. But to from a philosophical point of view, it's already assuming that you have greed, I think. And it's asking you going forward, how will you do better? Because I think this person.

Harry:
Never assume.

Charlie:
Never assume what?

Harry:
Well, this CEO man with his diary. As an interviewer, you should never make assumptions about about your guests. How will you fend off your greed? Sorry mate, you invited me on your podcast. Just belittle me with these questions. First, find out if I am greedy and then ask me in a less direct way, please. What!

Charlie:
Imagine if I asked you this just before we hosted a dinner. Or you sat down to our dinner and I give you a a portion?

Harry:
Yeah. How are you going to control your greed, your need to stuff your face in every moment today, Harry. What! Good question. Maybe, like if I were him, if I was making conversation questions to get out at the dinner party, I'd be like, I don't know. How do you control or curb your greed? I don't know. How will you control your greed?

Charlie:
I guess, to be safe, you could say, how does one control their greed? But that's really general advice. It leads to general stuff. I think this is quite thought provoking. How will you control your own greed?

Harry:
Yeah. Okay. Uh, that's a good question. How will I. So it's good. It's like, yeah, okay. It's a new year. We're assuming you're greedy and we're going into the new year thinking, how will you... What was it? Control your greed. Is it?

Charlie:
Your own greed. How will you control your own greed? I'll let you have some space to think and answer first perhaps. I think I'm most greedy with my time and choosing to do things that this sounds naughty, but it's not too naughty. Choosing to do things that pleasure me over things that don't bring joy.

Harry:
Right. Yeah. Okay.

Charlie:
I'm quite greedy with that. Like with my work, I'm trying really hard to not do the things that frustrate me and only do the things that bring me joy. And now that I've got a business, that is a problem, and I need to build a bigger team to help me out of that mess. And then with family, I sometimes struggle to see them because I want to do my own thing.

Harry:
Yeah.

Charlie:
And that's quite greedy.

Harry:
You don't consider that the time with them is going to bring you the joy that you that you seek.

Charlie:
No, I kind of want my own time. That's another thing i'm greedy with. Me time. I love time on my own.

Harry:
I definitely am too. I think that's a big thing. But then you're really good at, you know, giving up your time to do social things with Stacey and, like, you know, her family, her friends, your friends together. I know a lot of that, you know, it does bring you joy, but you're doing that to please her as well, right? To bring her pleasure.

Charlie:
Yeah. I mean, I like the way that you're saying it. I don't know if she would agree with it. I think she should agree with it. But, um. Yeah, I appreciate that. But then again, she betters my life. She enriches my life by providing a more varied social life, because I don't deliberately plan too far ahead of time with friends. And then that leaves me with me time, which I fucking love.

Harry:
What's your favourite way to spend your your me time?

Charlie:
Coffee is included in that. Video games.

Harry:
Going to the coffee shop?

Charlie:
Going to a coffee shop. Yeah, with my laptop. And it's a bit sad. Me time equals work, but it doesn't feel like work. Writing a podcast episode. That's one of my favourite things to do. Scripting one of them with a coffee in a nice coffee shop. I love that.

Harry:
Lovely. That's great.

Charlie:
Yeah, if I'm in the in the zone, I like going to a coffee shop and doing Spanish studies, perhaps, on my phone. But recently I've been going to a new gym that I took you to the other day and, uh, that I really enjoy. Going there. And there's a little spa that can treat myself to.

Harry:
It's lovely. Lovely gym.

Charlie:
Yeah, those kind of things.

Harry:
I get that. I totally get you.

Charlie:
Do you feel similar?

Harry:
I do, I do. I think that's a big obstacle that gets in the way of like me wanting to pursue like a relationship and find a partner. So I know you have to give up your time to do things that they want to do. And I often just want to do what I want to do, you know? And yeah, I remember that being a bit of an issue, like with Marina, there'd be things she'd want to do. I just like, I just don't really want to do that. Sounds okay, but it doesn't sound that fun. But yeah.

Charlie:
The older we get, the more opinionated we are on that. And I guess if you don't have kids, then you get more time to figure out what you love to do. And then that accentuates the feeling of, I really want to do that because I really get joy from that.

Harry:
Definitely, definitely. Yeah, it's true. You get to know yourself better than you as you get older and how you want to spend your your days, which is fine, but I think it's good that you're realising that you're greedy with your own time, because sometimes in life, of course, we have to do things that we don't love and that's just a part of life. And therefore if we resist that and we get too attached to our own time, then we suffer. And of course, the people around us suffer. So it's all about finding a balance, isn't it? And sometimes just doing things for other people or I don't know. So, you know, responsibilities or wanting to be there for other people. I don't know.

Charlie:
Yeah I agree, yeah. It's always, always about balance isn't it. Would you say the same? How will you control your own greed? Or is it more about eating too much for you, perhaps because you're quite greedy with food?

Harry:
I find I'm not. I don't think I'm too greedy with food. I've been known to pig out on weekends, but I think I'm generally okay. I think the main thing for me is, yeah, how I spend my time. Sometimes I'm unwise with how I choose to spend my time and I'll prioritise me time, but actually I could do something else that would probably end up bringing me more joy. So I feel like I need to get to know myself more and invest my time in things that bring me lasting joy rather than short term maybe.

Charlie:
Yeah, that's good.

Harry:
Otherwise, in terms of greed, yeah, trying to think what other things I'm greedy with. I'm not that bad with food and drink. Like with alcohol now I know my limit. Like I definitely know my limits.

Charlie:
Do you?

Harry:
When it comes to drinking. I do.

Charlie:
Do you know your limits with how much oat milk you can consume in a day?

Harry:
Actually, I am a bit greedy with that. I am a bit greedy with that. Yeah, I have been guilty of using my beloved Oatly barista milk with my cereal, which is just not what it's for.

Charlie:
Oh, very greedy!

Harry:
It's for coffees and teas. And it's very expensive. It's very expensive.

Charlie:
Yeah.

Harry:
So I'm getting through a lot of that, that stuff. And boy, do I love the brand. But.

Charlie:
I'd question the ethical quandary over that. Uh, if you're consuming a lot more oat milk than you would normal milk if you were just having cow's milk, is it ethically or is it sustainable?

Harry:
Uh, I mean, it's just oats, isn't it? It's not like nothing no one's being killed.

Charlie:
Yeah, but the process. Well, I don't think the cows are being slaughtered after the milk is being taken from them, I hope not.

Harry:
Good question. I guess they're just. Yeah, they're probably just used for milk production, aren't they?

Charlie:
Daisy cows. They have a lovely life, don't they? I mean, no, I take that back. I've seen some terrible situations, but some. They have a lovely time.

Harry:
Yeah. Was that on your farm that you saw a terrible situation? Did you ever have any cows growing up?

Charlie:
No. We didn't. I'd have bloody loved a cow. I really enjoy looking at a cow.

Harry:
Me too.

Charlie:
Whenever I go to a farm, it's the most enjoyable part of it. They're so big and yet kind of peaceful. And also, I know some religions deem them as very sacred, but I think they look quite simple.

Harry:
In terms of their intelligence or?

Charlie:
Yeah.

Harry:
Right. Yeah.

Charlie:
What do you think of that? Do you think cows are intelligent?

Harry:
Well, can something be simple and something be sacred? Does it mean it has to be of, I don't know, like great intelligence? Or can it not be simple too?

Charlie:
No. It could be simple. I just want to, you know, forewarn those that might.

Harry:
But you don't find it that sacred as an animal. I always like yeah. I think that peace that they... Kind of emanates from a cow. There's something nice about staring at a herd of cow.

Charlie:
Yeah.

Harry:
Just on a in the field. Right? It's a nice thing. And it brings me great peace. And maybe that is a part of the sacredness of a cow that the peace that they embody.

Charlie:
That's true. Yeah. It's it seems petty to go back on it. But I didn't mean that I don't think they're sacred, but I feel like they look quite simple. And I felt like that might be upsetting to those that think that they are very sacred, part of their religion. You said cow as in plural. Was that a joke? Is two cows not cows?

Harry:
I heard um, I'm just thinking of that. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I heard, uh, farmer say a herd of cow once, and so I'm just copying the farmer.

Charlie:
Right. Okay. What is the plural of cow? The plural of cow is cows or cattle.

Harry:
Uh, yeah. Cattle would make sense.

Charlie:
Maybe a farmer would say it more generally. My cow.

Harry:
Yeah I did hear it. You know what I heard in Alan Partridge? You know, when he was interviewing the farmer and he says, I have 100 cow.

Charlie:
Oh, I see.

Harry:
I think that's why I've said it.

Charlie:
Yeah, right. Yeah. There's a few cows over there. You wouldn't say there's a few cow over there, would you? I don't think I would.

Harry:
No. It sounds really weird.

Charlie:
I think it's cows but I think it's quite old English maybe? No, I don't know if it's Old English. Why did we get to cows? Oh, because of milk?

Harry:
Cattle. Cattle, though. That's that's a good word to use. A herd of cattle, you might say.

Charlie:
Yeah. Do you think cows are greedy before we end this episode?

Harry:
They mainly just stand around eating grass, don't they? They don't seem to ever let up. They're eating quite a lot of it. I don't know if they have that little switch that that thing in their brain that says, look, you've had enough grass. I don't know if they, they have that. Uh, maybe they do. I'm not sure. I've never looked at a cow and thought, how greedy.

Charlie:
Do they have more stomachs?

Harry:
Cows have three stomachs. How many stomachs do they have?

Charlie:
I've heard people say cows have four stomachs, but I've just googled and it says cows technically only have one stomach, but it has four distinct compartments made up of some other random words. So yeah, it's one stomach categorised into four segments or four compartments. And because I've said that, it's probably a fantastic place to leave it. Thank you very much for listening to the end of this bitesize episode. We'll be back with the next bitesize episode or level three. Will you be ready for that, Harry? The deep end?

Harry:
Absolutely. We can continue, like cows to chew the cud in, uh, in the next episode.

Charlie:
Or should I say moo. Very nice, very nice. Just thinking about what we've just done, though, in the last two bitesize episodes, the first one was the brand. What if you could be part of any brand or company, past or present, which would it be and why? Do you feel like that was an icebreaker in comparison to the one that we just did? How will you control your own greed? Do you see the levels?

Harry:
Yeah I think yeah, that next one is quite cutting, isn't it? It's quite wow. You need to know have have already broken the ice and know them fairly well. I feel like if you're going to ask that question.

Charlie:
That's true.

Harry:
Yeah. You need to be careful with that one. And it can't just be out of nowhere either. There's got to be something building up to that. They they need to have expressed that they consider themselves to be a little greedy in order to ask that question. That coming out of nowhere is quite a shock.

Charlie:
Yeah. You don't want to start off saying, hey, mate, how are you? How will you control your own greed?

Harry:
Absolutely.

Charlie:
A little bit too early. Okay, cool. We'll go on to level three in the next bitesize episode. Well done for listening to the end. Thank you very much, Harry. See you soon.

Harry:
See you later.